1635.) Proverbs 5

Mae West:  “I used to be Snow White, but I drifted.”

Proverbs 5 (NLT)

Avoid Immoral Women

John Edwards and Rielle Hunter

After repeated denials that he was involved in an extramarital relationship, former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards confirmed that he indeed did have an affair with  Rielle Hunter, while his wife, Elizabeth, was battling cancer.  And another lie:  he denied that Hunter’s baby girl was his child; she is.

1 My son, pay attention to my wisdom;
listen carefully to my wise counsel.
2 Then you will show discernment,
and your lips will express what you’ve learned.
3 For the lips of an immoral woman are as sweet as honey,
and her mouth is smoother than oil.
4 But in the end she is as bitter as poison,
as dangerous as a double-edged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death;
her steps lead straight to the grave.
6 For she cares nothing about the path to life.
She staggers down a crooked trail and doesn’t realize it.

Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky

On January 26, 1998, President Clinton claimed “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky” in a nationally televised White House news conference.  But he had.

7 So now, my sons, listen to me.
Never stray from what I am about to say:
8 Stay away from her!
Don’t go near the door of her house!
9 If you do, you will lose your honor
and will lose to merciless people all you have achieved.
10 Strangers will consume your wealth,
and someone else will enjoy the fruit of your labor.
11 In the end you will groan in anguish
when disease consumes your body.
12 You will say, “How I hated discipline!
If only I had not ignored all the warnings!
13 Oh, why didn’t I listen to my teachers?
Why didn’t I pay attention to my instructors?
14 I have come to the brink of utter ruin,
and now I must face public disgrace.”

15 Drink water from your own well—
share your love only with your wife.
16 Why spill the water of your springs in the streets,
having sex with just anyone?
17 You should reserve it for yourselves.
Never share it with strangers.

Dr. and Mrs. Billy Graham

“I am so grateful to the Lord that He gave me Ruth, and especially for these last few years we’ve had in the mountains together. We’ve rekindled the romance of our youth, and my love for her continued to grow deeper every day. I will miss her terribly, and look forward even more to the day I can join her in Heaven.”

– Billy Graham, June 14, 2007, the day Ruth died

18 Let your wife be a fountain of blessing for you.
Rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 She is a loving deer, a graceful doe.
Let her breasts satisfy you always.
May you always be captivated by her love.
20 Why be captivated, my son, by an immoral woman,
or fondle the breasts of a promiscuous woman?

Tiger Woods

Tiger Woods

“The issue involved here was my repeated irresponsible behavior.  I was unfaithful.  I had affairs.  I cheated.  What I did is not acceptable, and I am the only person to blame.”

Tiger Woods apologized to the world and returned to therapy.

21 For the Lord sees clearly what a man does,
examining every path he takes.
22 An evil man is held captive by his own sins;
they are ropes that catch and hold him.
23 He will die for lack of self-control;
he will be lost because of his great foolishness.

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Music:

HERE  George Jones sings the poignant song  “Choices.”

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New Living Translation (NLT) Holy Bible. New Living Translation copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers.

Images courtesy of:
Mae West.   http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/maewest.jpg
John Edwards.   http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/john-edwards-header.jpg
Bill Clinton.    http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1998/1101980202_400.jpg
Billy Graham.    http://thescroogereport.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/grahams-2003.jpg
Tiger Woods.    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.195544!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/alg-tiger-sad-jpg.jpg
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8 Responses to 1635.) Proverbs 5

  1. Betty Sharp says:

    WOW! Did you make good choices! One of the things that troubled me most was President Clinton’s affair with Monica, and then knowing there were others (no surprise, really). I remember reading that his personal life really had nothing to do with his professional life. REALLY? If he would lie and cheat and cover up that much about his personal life, what might he be capable of as a professional? A president is supposed to be a leader, an example.

    I wish I could say that I’ve never met any of these guys – or girls – in my life in the ministry. Every denomination has them. As a single woman in a profession that was mostly male I felt like a target a handful of times through the years.

    Anyway, again a tough subject that isn’t dealt with strongly enough these days.

    See you.

    Betty

  2. Barb says:

    Don’t blame it all on the women. It takes two. Men are just as much to blame!8

  3. anon says:

    I agree with most of the pictures of her are probably fairly accurate, but I’m not sure Rielle Hunter and Monica Lewinski fit the definition of this ‘immoral’/’strange’ woman in Proverbs. This Proverbs’ ‘strange’ or ‘foreign’ or ‘estranged’ woman is likely a married prostitute, estranged from/to her husband, yet still living in the same house with him (Prov 2:17, 5:9:10, 7:8-12, 27, possibly 9:13,17-18). If she’s not that, she’s like a ‘serial adulteress’. Prov 6:24-26 is evidence she is flattering and might be a prostitute due to the mention of her beauty and seductive eyelids. The words ‘give’, ‘honour’, ‘years’, ‘wealth’ and ‘labours’ in
    Prov 5:9-10 sound like they are about a prostitute.

    The two main terms for this ‘strange’ or ‘foreign’ or ‘estranged’ woman in Hebrew Proverbs are zarah/ishah zarah (can mean estranged wife, who can have sex with many men), and nokariyah (can mean foreign woman, and a foreign woman in ancient Israel was likely often a prostitute).

    Prov 7:5,8 (‘the street near her corner’),10 (‘attire of an harlot’),12 (‘in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner’),16 (‘Egypt’; foreign aspect),19 (‘the man’/’my man’/’my husband’; likely married), 25-27 (7:26, ‘She hath cast down many wounded, and many strong men have been slain by her’; has many victims/partners/lovers) are the best verses showing what she is about. Prov 2:19(Hebrew/’LXX’: ‘all’/’not’), ‘they’, 7:26 (‘many’, ‘many’), possibly
    9:18 (‘the dead’, ‘her guests’) and possibly 6:26 in the ‘LXX’ (plural word: lives/souls) are evidences she has many victims/partners/lovers. She is likely married, Prov 2:17, 5:9-10, 6:26,29,32-35, 7:19, 9:17 are evidences of this. (‘stolen water is sweet’ likely refers to adultery. A wife’s sexuality is referred to as water in Prov 5:15. Bread of secrets or ‘hidden bread is pleasant’ can also refer to adultery, as Potiphar’s wife may be referred to as
    ‘the bread’ Potiphar knew, while he gave everything else into the hand of Joseph, Gen 39:6). This ‘strange’ or ‘foreign’ or ‘estranged’ woman in Proverbs apparently isn’t directly called a prostitute because the professional or unmarried prostitute is mentioned in Prov 6:26, 7:10, 23:27 (first part), 29:3 (plural), and this ‘foreign woman’ apparently has a foreign aspect (Prov 7:16) and is likely married, and is likely a married prostitute or serial adulteress in simple terms. I’d call her an estranged wife prostitute.

    This ‘strange’ or ‘estranged’ or ‘foreign’ woman in Proverbs is likely a married prostitute, in simple terms. In more complex terms, I’d call her an estranged wife prostitute. Less likely, she is a ‘serial adulteress’. Prov 7:5,8,10-12,16 (foreign aspect, ‘Egypt’),19 (likely married, ‘the man’ is likely a term of belittlement, similar to Potiphar’s wife calling her husband ‘he’ in Gen 39:14, with no introduction or respect shown; or it is a term for vagueness),25-27 are the best verses showing what this Proverbs ‘strange’ woman is about. What is one to make of the words ‘And the adulteress will hunt for the precious life’ (plural in the ‘LXX’) in Prov 6:26? Likely this ‘strange woman’ in Proverbs is, at least, committing adultery on a regular basis, with many men. She may be hunting for the precious life/lives as in for it or them, as in hunting for wealth or hunting for men to commit adultery with. What this verse really means is disputed, but it is evidence that this ‘strange woman’ in Proverbs commits adultery, and in ancient Israel that meant she
    was married, as it was not adultery for an unmarried woman to have sex with a married man.

    She is likely a serial adulteress or a serial adulterous prostitute, in simple, yet basically sufficient terms. This video mentions her being a ‘giant adulteress’, but the picture (3:30-3:33) looks like an adulterous prostitute, doesn’t it?

    That is likely who she is in Proverbs.

    She may be an ‘estranged’ wife/woman from her husband, and who has sex with many men. One of the main terms for her in Hebrew Proverbs, zarah/ishah zarah can have an ‘estranged’ meaning to it.

    http://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/proverbs/7.htm

    These pastor links used to work, a couple no longer do because the pastor’s website no longer exists or has changed.

    The pastor I agree with probably the most is this one here, by the name of M. Sean Reynolds, where he says:

    Therefore, the “foreign woman” in Proverbs is a seductive adulteress, who is also sometimes a prostitute.

    http://www.thewholecounsel.com/proverbs-2214/

    Pastor/priest/Bible scholar George Leo Haydock’s Catholic commentary (mid 19th century) lists a married ‘abandoned woman’ (prostitute) as a preferred definition of who she is, citing Antoine Augustin Calmet (a French Benedictine monk of the 17th and 18th centuries who wrote commentaries on the Bible)

    http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id1096.html

    Here is pastor Bob Yandian who identifies her as a prostitute and claims a verse in Prov 9 shows what she’s really like, and implies her serial adulterous side with the words ‘He is stealing waters that rightfully belong to another man’, and with ‘This woman has a long list of successes and they are all lying flat on their backs in the coffin.’

    http://www.bobyandian.com/the-strange-woman/

    Here is pastor Larry Wood who thinks she is at least some type of prostitute.

    http://www.biblenews1.com/babylon/babylon3.html

    ‘For the prostitute is a deep pit,
    And the foreign prostitute is a narrow well. (Proverbs 23:27)’

    Here is pastor Darrell Mitchell

    http://www.netbiblestudy.com/00_cartimages/Proverbs.pdf

    Chapter 5 is an exhortation to get acquaintance with and submit to the laws of wisdom. Verses 3-4 give a particular caution against these heathen temple prostitutes
    and remedies are prescribed against that sin.

    the primary scope of this chapter is to relate the symbol of the
    adulterous woman of idolatry, that tend to degrade men’s minds and manners –- these temple harlots certainly apply!

    Here are some videos which I believe are along the lines of who I think she is:

  4. anon says:

    No problem. I have researched her for many months in many languages and Bibles. Other words about her which sound like they’re about a prostitute are in Prov 5:5 which have the words ‘her feet’ and ‘her steps’ (the same chapter with the words ‘give’, ‘honour’, ‘years’, ‘wealth’, ‘labours’, which sound like they’re about a prostitute). This Proverbs ‘strange woman’ is likely an unprofessional or married prostitute, or at least a ‘serial adulteress’. The professional or unmarried prostitute is mentioned in Prov 6:26, 7:10, 23:27 (first part), 29:3 (plural). Prov 20:16 and 27:13 might refer to a down payment/loan/pledge for sex with her, which is more evidence she is some type of prostitute or essentially one, although she is likely married and likely has a ‘foreign’ aspect (Prov 7:16, ‘fine linen of Egypt’)

  5. anon says:

    Here are a couple of pictures of what I think she would look like, in my opinion.

  6. anon says:

    No problem

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